I own a couple TP-Link Tapo Wi-fi light bulbs. Currently, each family member installs an app on the phone to control the light bulbs. I wonder if there’s a way to do the same but in a browser (via docker app on my NAS). And because we may use smart devices of other brands in the future, it seems too much trouble to install yet another app on each phone.
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HomeAssistant?
That’s what home assistant is built to do. There is a docker version, but I hit limits pretty quick and fired up an old raspberry pi running HomeassistantOS
One app, many devices & brands, custom interfaces for each member.
What limits did you hit?
It was many, many years ago, but if I recall some of the add-ons or installations didn’t work in the docker version. I started with docker on a Synology server, but I gave up on the whole project for a year until I found a Pi in a drawer I forgot I had.
HAOS just feels more “complete” to me.
Addons on HAOS are just Docker containers. When you use HA in Docker you have to just install the addons you like yourself as containers next to HA. It gives you more freedom to change settings for the “addons” when you install them yourself, but it is also a little more work. I think it is still worth it because you can also just install whatever you want. I run a minecraft server for example on the same server.
HAOS is a managed operating system, which is perfect for people who want to automate their home but don’t want to manage a Linux machine. It’s a little wild to me to see a person in this community advocating a managed OS. Like, what are we even doing here??
I killed HAOS and set it up in docker because it was phoning home a lot. Sometimes there were hundreds of dns queries a minute to HA servers. No thanks.
Haha! I feel like I got a little roasted and have some learning to do, but this hobby is all good fun.
I’m definitely not hating on docker. I use it for dozens of containers across several machines and love how easy it is, and even some of the fights we’ve had. If that works for people’s needs, awesome!
I really wish I remembered what the error was. It’s been bugging me all day. Maybe it’s not a thing anymore.
Ha, I roasted you for having the good sense to let somebody else handle some of this stuff for you.
Nobody in crazy rabbit hole club is allowed to do anything the easy way!!
Do you have anything more to back up the claims about haos breaking privacy other than sone DNS queries? Just because there is a DNS query doesn’t mean any actual data is being sent. I’m only asking because I’d be sad to hear if there are really issues. HA is fully open source so I’m surprised if this is really and issue.
I definitely did not claim it was braking privacy. As far as I can tell it was just querying an update server but for some reason it was doing it with such frequency (hundreds a minute for hours out of the day) that I deemed it was broken and that the OS was not managed well.
Other people took a more suspicious view but mostly they just lost my trust that they had any business running a system on my network. If you google around you can get more nuanced takes I don’t actually know if they ever fixed it.
Ah. I’m running HA out of docker currently and haven’t hit any walls, but I’m not exactly pushing it. There’s an annoyance where I have to tell HA to trust my docker’s default IP, and there was some reverse-proxy messing around I had to do to get it working on my network. Once it’s up and loaded, it’s indistinguishably HomeAssistant.
I run mine behind a reverse proxy too and had to do that as well. Seems like a common thing there should be a system config for.
Home Assistant
I don’t run it myself, but Home Assistant has Tapo integration
Nice, this looks promising. I’ll try it out.
Just throw it in a VM and try it out that way if you can. The Docker version is just the Home Assistant part but if you run the VM you can run HAOS which is the “Supervised” version that can install add-ons to. There is a way to run Supervised in Docker but it’s not supported (and when my version died it was devastating)
Thanks so much for the advice. Easy of use is a major concern for family members, however. My plan is to open the web page on a tablet and put it in the living room then the family doesn’t need to use a phone. I’ll look into both options.
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Home Assistant!
I use Home Assistant for controlling my smart lights. They do support Docker, but I installed it as a VM with KVM. You get more features with it, such as add-ons. But you should definitely look into your options. They have a diagram on this page.
I don’t know if tapo plugs are supported, but this git code lets you turn tplink kasa plugs into local server activated plugs so you don’t have to use tplink app for activation online. Then homeassistant is a great tool for control
https://github.com/jkbenaim/hs100
Also worked on dimmable switches
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