Sell or donate for parts. If you don’t have a use for it, someone likely does and it’s better than landfill.

<Sanders meme.jpg> I am once again asking for a fucking blurb describing the fucking tool when you’ve got fucking news to share.

TrueNAS isn’t supported as a VM. This doesn’t prevent people from doing it anyway, but it might be relevant for you.

I’ve seen performance comparisons on the web and there is a slight advantage to Proxmox, but nearly insignificant. It really boils down to what you’re more comfortable maintaining.

Note that your can run docker containers for the services you run in your Debian server. Docker will run faster than any VM.

I disagree. The extras and modularity are the core functionality. If you’re just serving files, there’s SFTP, WebDAV, etc.

Why would you compare to something so utterly different?

In that case, what would be better in terms of memory / CPU usage: dedup and compression at the filesystem level or disabling it and doing it at the tool level?

That’s why you integrate with NUT. So you can automate a graceful shutdown when battery levels drop to a set level.

Prompt: Super Cunt, photorealistic, in the style of Jill Greenberg.

They’re not exact replicas. Enough a difference to fool the algorithm.

In that case a SFF would be better than either. There are great deals in the used market.

Which is dumb. “Please help me solve this problem I don’t want to talk about.”

Do prefer the Elite Desk though. The Pro only has one drive bay, so you’d have to use an adaptor to use the slim optical bay for a 2.5" drive. The Elite has 2x 3.5" bays and one 2.5" bay plus an NVMe slot so you can build a decent starter NAS. It’s also got 4 DIMM slots for up to 64 GB of memory and if you get a 7th gen Intel with it, it’ll have hardware accelerated transcoding.

They are liars.

Also one of the two wild South American camelids which live in the high alpine areas of the Andes and a relative of the llama.

There are THREE South American camelids: llamas, vicuñas, and guanacos. 😤

Btrfs is great, but you’re right that their own documentation advises against RAID in a production environment. People tend to use mdraid to achieve redundancy and Btrfs on top of it for the other features.

BTW, you mentioned not using ZFS because of differently sized disks. That’s exactly one of the use cases for ZFS. Its RAID z1/z2/z3 modes provide for dynamic stripes that allow you to lose 1, 2, or 3 disks in a vdev, regardless of disk size. Oh and the ram thing is that it will use any idle ram for caching, to speed your disks. But it promptly releases it back to the system if another process needs it. Basically, the more ram you have, the more it will accelerate your disk operations.

What stops Proxmox is the same thing “stopping” Canonical. The next day there’ll be a fork and anyone can start selling pro support for it, further encroaching in their business model.

Regarding TrueNAS, there’s nothing broken. You can can sideload both containers and VMs. You can say it’s inconvenient, but again, it’ll be suited for some people, not so much for others.

I’m not sure if you came across my other comment about Proxmox (here) but unfortunately it isn’t just “besmirching their reputation on moral grounds”.

I have, and was based on that I wrote what I did. I still think those choices are business decisions that are not against open source, neither the letter or the spirit of the licenses. It seems you disagree.

Also, I would like to add that a LOT of people use Proxmox to run containers and those containers are currently LXC containers. If one is already running LXC containers why not have the full experience and move to LXD/Incus that was made by the same people and designed specifically to manage LXC and later on VMs?

Why not, indeed? I thanked you before for raising awareness for that. Please keep up. It’s really the “Proxmox is fake open source” discourse I take issue with. I think it would be more helpful if you said “and you get all security updates for free with Incus, unlike Proxmox.” It’s a clear, factual message, devoid of a value judgement. People don’t like to be told what to think.

Also it’s weird that you take issue with Proxmox but not LXD. From what I read in the Incus initial announcement, what Canonical did with LXD is barely legal and definitely against the spirit of its license. Incus is a drop in replacement. Why even bring LXD up?

And, as far as micro to small installations go, TrueNAS is another alternative that plays well with open source (AFAIK). Unlikely to be used specifically for VMs or containers, but it’s a popular choice for home servers for a reason.

To sum it up: I’m trying to provide some constructive criticism of your approach. But I’m just an internet stranger so… You do you. I hope you think about it, though.

I beg to differ. Building a business model around open source is tricky at best. There’s always tradeoffs, and their model means they have less support from the broader community as their project will be used less. It’s their choice to make and I don’t see anything questionable with it. It’s one of the stated goals of GPL to not impede business with open source.

Proxmox isn’t making you sign away rights granted by the license - that to me is questionable legally and downright bullshit morally. Again, what they’re doing is fine, even if it makes their product undesirable to me.

Thank you for putting the word out on Incus as an alternative to Proxmox, one that is likely to fit the needs of many that are ill served by Proxmox. But besmirching their reputation on moral grounds doesn’t do anyone any favors. It ends up soiling the reputation of Incus as a side effect, even.

As long as the source code is freely available, that’s entirely congruent with GPL, which is one of the most stringent licenses. You can lay a lot of criticism on their business practices, and I would not deploy this on my home server, but it haven’t seen any evidence that they’re infringing any licenses.

What about Proxmox makes its license questionable?

Actually 2 3.5" and one 2.5", with 3 SATA ports, if you actually go for the the Elite Desk instead of Pro. Anyway, Look at it more like a concept. Get a mid tower of your goal is more flexibility. The key is the CPU for transcoding.